It's disingenuous to place this figure there without specifying the location. Even in places with high COL, 91k as an entry-level front end dev is unrealistic if they have no prior experience. And if this is assuming you'd be remote, that's even more ridiculous. 91k off the bat with 0 prior experience in the industry working from wherever you want sounds like a fantasy.

> Even in places with high COL, 91k as an entry-level front end dev is unrealistic if they have no prior experience.

In the metro Boston area, fresh college grads are getting $100K+bonus typically, with upside from there. I think $91K is not at all unrealistic.

130k plus is the typical salary with a college grad in a top company. We are a startup in Seattle, not a unicorn, you've probably not heard of us, and we pay 135k + options for new college hires. We are told our comp is too low by people.

I mean those are your cream of the crop type candidates i'm assuming not a person who just got pumped out of a 12 week bootcamp. I would assume < 10% of people with no experience entering the field get 100k+. Even 10% might be a large number.

They are very good bachelors. I don't think someone with 12 weeks in bootcamp can pass the interview bar. We ask about multithreaded programming in C++, a series of programming challenges, and about theory of computer science, software engineering principals. Nothing that I wouldn't expect from my previous experience with fang like companies.

Why would a frontend dev need to know multithreaded programming in C++, knowledge which a tiny percentage of startups need?

FAANG are recruiting high-level programmers, not people hooking up forms to APIs.

I think I missed something - my startup needs backend devs, not frontend.

seriously? evidently things are very different over there, here in the UK youd be lucky to get much over £25-30k in an entry level job and if you dont have a few years experience under your belt then you better be prepared for a long fight to get a position at all

Dead serious. I equally don't understand the EU/UK market for programmers. I think US salaries seem unsustainably high and European salaries unsustainably low, especially in large cities...

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Slightly off topic, but is the supply significantly higher than the demand out in Vancouver? I've always wondered how companies could get away with the abysmally low salaries for dev roles vs anywhere on the east coast relative to living costs.

Yes many people love Vancouver because of the weather (esp relative to the rest of canada) and the proximity to nature there are also a lot of recent ubc/sfu grads and kids from other Canadian schools who find van desirable. This combined with few roles to begin with gives you the current situation