> If you wonder how people could ever vote for someone like Trump, I think it’s got something to do with that kind of rhetoric.
So the rhetoric is the problem here, and not the reasons the rhetoric exists?
The rhetoric is in response to the objectively bad actions of this administration. If nothing else, the rank and foul disregard for so much of the Constitution and flagrant disregard for basic human rights and dignity.
Remember the tan suit? The sleepy Joe Biden?
Frankly, it's completely disingenious to ignore the fact that the leader of this movement, gets on his social media and says the most foul things possible every day.. and then you try to indict both sides.
A rando on the internet saying garbage is not the same as the leader of the whole movement, because that just empowers the people who follow him.
Nobody that you should take seriously said anything bad about the murder of Charlie Kirk.
But when the President gets on social media and says he's glad people are dead, or that it's okay to wipe out a civilization, and his base cheers for him, that's not rhetoric and we should just ignore it?
Sorry. That's just completely intellectually dishonest
Again, it's completely disingenous to compare random internet trolls on Reddit/Facebook/Youtube/etc to the office of the President.
I invite you to actually find a case of a politician, a news source, or someone else who isn't one of these folks on the left, that celebrated the assassination attempts, or the murders of Kirk of the UHC CEO. Mark Hammil? Okay? The dude from Tenacious D? Okay. Other than that, new sources, politicians, the decent left? All universally condemned it.
Compare that to the attack of on Paul Pelosi, the murders of the Minnosota representive, her husband, and their dog, murders of Alex Pretti and Renee Good.
EVERYBODY on the right.
From the previous people mentioned whose opinions should be ignored, to almost every Conservative news outlet, to many politicians including the office of the President. None of them condemned it, instead focused on why they "deserved it".
Multiple academic sources, using real and verified datasets, which I'm sure you just see and "owned by the liberals", like START (Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism) at the University of Maryland, ADL, have demonstrated the right is overwhelming far more comfortable with violence and violent rhetoric.
Look at what you are doing and what EVERY response of yours is.
Saying "getting fascists in the door" is not rhetoric, when there are so many things happening in our government and country that in any other decade would be objectively fascist.
You again, turned this entirely into a US vs THEM. Ignoring the fact that what this link was about is wrong, and somehow continuing defending the rhetoric because in your mind "the other side is doing it too"
> At the national level, 58 Democrats voted against a resolution to posthumously honor Kirk.
Why does being assassinated mean they should be posthumously honored?
He farmed clips from uneducated impromptu college debaters to push a narrative that included "some gun deaths are worth it" and that women and minorities are often selected only for DEI reasons and you should worry if they are your doctor or pilot. He was not a nice or honorable person, regardless of the situation in which he was killed.
I don't endorse or support the assassination of Kirk (I assume you will jump to that conclusion based on how you read Kimmel and Dowd's comments), but we have to be real... he wasn't honorable, and the "free speech" and "encouraging debate" aspect of his career was mostly for YouTube views and political gain, not an actual conversation to improve mutual understanding.
All you've demonstrated is that the left holds people accountable. But I'm sorry that you can't see how:
* calling someone a "divisive figure" and "who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words which lead to hateful actions."'
Is not even close to the evil words you are trying to attribute it to. That is not celebrating Kirk's death or even trying to excuse it. But again, he was fired and held accountable.
Unlike the PRESIDENT who calls for genocide, people he doesn't like to be executed as traitors. ALMOST DAILY.
Do you not see the blatant irony of trying to claim that Jimmy Kimmell was wrong for trying to blame the murder on someone on the right? Like, for real????
Why does Charlie Kirk need honors on the national level? He was a mouthpiece for opinions and frankly before his murder, I knew nothing about him except he started a feud with Swifties.
Are you just as upset that Minnesota House Speaker Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark were murdered by a verified right-wing nutjob? And instead of honors for a woman and her husband that were targeted because of her service to her State and this Country, the White House and everyone else on the right is still saying she somehow deserved it because of "reasons"
* Biden's FBI in the crowd inciting violence (Biden didn't have an FBI)
* Antifa, which I still don't know who to report to for my badge
* Peaceful patriots who were unfair targets and somehow deserve a piece of 1.776 billion.
It can't really be all three?
I'm done.
This was not about blame, but unsurprisingly that just where you took it.
When someone is so far buried within the proproganda that demonstrates brainwashing to any reasonable person, no amount of words will change them.
And you just expressed the thoughts of every engineer that writes code for a living who is either left behind, or embracing the technology to hit KPIs and QVRs.
> systemd is a monstrous codebase and there lies shitload of exploits in it. Either intentional or accidental.
And yet...
1. practically all hyperscalers use it
2. desktops
3. container images, that power everything from docker to kubernetes use it
It helps that it's actively maintained, battle-tested as hell, and widely audited.
Point being, it's fun to hate on systemd, and maybe even hipster-like, and systemd is hardly perfect... but you are probably more likely to be exploited by a pypi or npm supply-chain attack.
> It helps that it's actively maintained, battle-tested as hell, and widely audited.
Is it actually audited? Or is it like OpenSSL... everybody uses it, but nobody looks under the hood cause it's gross in there? (Or well, nobody looked before Heartbleed anyway)
And it runs as PID1 on many distros and these are folks like RHEL, who have a huge interest in keeping it secure.
Pypi has an almost daily exploit announced in common and popular libraries, simply because the dependency graph is so huge. And this is in things that are almost certainly deliberately and by design exposed to insecure user input.
Again, it’s fun to hate on systemd, but in reality you are much more likely to be exploited by something else.
> Point being, it's fun to hate on systemd, and maybe even hipster-like, and systemd is hardly perfect... but you are probably more likely to be exploited by a pypi or npm supply-chain attack.
Can you even imagine pypi or npm compromising ssh this way?
> Can you even imagine pypi or npm compromising ssh this way?
Is ssh somehow sacrosanct in a way that any other RCE or credential stealing attack is different?
I don’t even know the last time I exposed ssh to the open internet.
But the fact with npm or pypi you can be exploited just by running the software you’ve already installed because the dependencies are everywhere on your system?
> Is ssh somehow sacrosanct in a way that any other RCE or credential stealing attack is different?
I see ssh as a very fundamental part of the system - in BSD terms it's in base not ports. Random packages from npm or pypi, sure, if you installed some slop off the internet and got exploited that's not so surprising. (Even those package managers themselves are not part of the base system, much less anything you install with them). But ssh should be safe!
I’ve never understood the gatekeeping people wrap around kubernetes.
Even with small 3 node cluster of of raspberry pis, you can run anything you can run in simple docker, and have it survive outages/reboots/etc.
At home, I have a few raspberry pis, orangepi RV (riscv nodes), and my main nodes are large high core and RAM VMs running on Proxmox.
Each one has different capabilities. Some have lots of fast storage attached for longhorn, some have 10Gb/25Gb networking, etc.
And the great part is if I wanted to collapse down to just the SBCs? I would just need to scale down some replicas of high men or high cpu stuff I’m testing.
Of course at job, I just pick the node shape and capabilities I need and don’t think about it.
Yeah, I’m probably the exception for running kubernetes at home, but I would argue if you are running more than a handful of docker containers, you should probably be using kubernetes anyway.
Especially if you care about things being up, or want to be able to seamlessly shuffle stuff around for maintenance. Not to mention my entire infrastructure is repeatable with just a small git repo of fluxcd stuff
I'm not personally trying to gatekeep kubernetes, everyone should do what works for them. However, if I'm putting my professional credibility and/or my sleep schedule on the line, I would not advise anyone to do this.
Even at home, I run stuff that needs to be highly available enough that I wouldn't go this route when there are better options.
Okay, well you’ve still not highlighted was is the preferred method here, since even with a 42u rack and a cluster in GCP, you still wouldn’t run kubernetes
At least for SBCs, I’ve bought a few orange pi rv2s and r2s to use as builder nodes, and in some cases they are slower than the same thing running in qemu w/buildx or just qemu
There’s more to Docker Desktop than just “oh it’s just docker underneath”
1. Unified experience across Windows, Mac, Linux
2. The security posture is much stronger by default. Many people, who would probably be considered the “target audience” for Docker Desktop, don’t bother to make docker-ce rootless, or don’t use podman, so running it in a VM is better, though admittedly often annoying.
3. Not everybody is a CLI warrior. Docker Desktop gives a decent GUI, ways to monitor and control containers visually, and even deploy kubernetes with a single click.
So the rhetoric is the problem here, and not the reasons the rhetoric exists?
The rhetoric is in response to the objectively bad actions of this administration. If nothing else, the rank and foul disregard for so much of the Constitution and flagrant disregard for basic human rights and dignity.
Remember the tan suit? The sleepy Joe Biden?
Frankly, it's completely disingenious to ignore the fact that the leader of this movement, gets on his social media and says the most foul things possible every day.. and then you try to indict both sides.
A rando on the internet saying garbage is not the same as the leader of the whole movement, because that just empowers the people who follow him.
Nobody that you should take seriously said anything bad about the murder of Charlie Kirk.
But when the President gets on social media and says he's glad people are dead, or that it's okay to wipe out a civilization, and his base cheers for him, that's not rhetoric and we should just ignore it?
Sorry. That's just completely intellectually dishonest
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