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There is still quite some amount of hubris in this.

If A writes software under L0 and gives it to B and is “nice enough” to allow B to use it privately for free, there’s some entitlement to the software.,

You’re overlooking that, in a contemporary environment, you’re standing on the shoulders of the giants (and all the small ones) who came before you. It’s absolutely presumptuous to write code in our time and not publish it under an OSS licence.


It’s misleading because it pretends that you need zero licences for it.


Nor is it Ⓕ Copyfree compatible, and none of the BSDs would ever touch it either.

So that leaves you with adaption by unwashed unorganised masses who wouldn’t care about licence terms at all.


Just find something that brings bread on the table. Doesn’t even have to be software-related, could be, idfk, gardening.


Eh, you can use a fixed-width font in GUI apps, too. In Kontact, for example, you just press “x”.

FixedMisc is still the best font


meh, give me ed over vi and emacs any day

“modern” seems to be a curse word these days, all the time I find it being used it’s used to describe something despicable like the systemd ecosystem.


Slack? Ugh.

When my employer turned off the company-internal Jabber server in favour of, out of all things, Hipchat, I moved my team mates to IRC. (They also seem to all know at least some vi, even the trainee.)


Sorry about that, I was more concerned with getting the explanation into more than 140 chars and out to both people and GitHub and getting in touch with GitHub than with writing a lengthy article.

And all this besides $dayjob which suffered on the day, so I’ll probably need to work the weekend to catch up.


Be that as it may, without an extended analysis of the possible multiple interpretations and conflicts with copyleft, it leaves the author looking somewhat shrill.


I am the author. And I am not an academic interested in bringing out a lengthy article with explaining the interpretations and all.

I am, in this instance, pragmatic: explaining what’s bad, why it’s bad, what we need to do right now, and that’s it, and now I’m trying to work on a solution with the GitHub people.

If this is not enough, do your own research. In my referrers, there have popped up some Russian sites that (according to Google Translate) did some of their own research (and came to similar conclusions). Ex-Debian’s joeyh did, too.


The licence per se is not disallowed.

If you create a work from scratch and decide to put it under GPL and upload it to GitHub (thus granting extra rights), that’s just fine.

It’s only you cannot currently upload SOMEONE ELSE’s GPL’d work (including your own derivate thereof) to GitHub.


True. But CC0 is deprecated by CC themselves and CC requested the OSI to not approve it. It is unclear whether there will be a successor.

But any of the BSD/MIT-ish licences should be close enough to a “gift” for this to work (well they do protect the author/licensor a bit more, but…).


> CC0 is deprecated by CC themselves

As far as I can tell this is simply false. At https://creativecommons.org/retiredlicenses/ there is a list of "retired" (deprecated) legal tools, which does include a "Public Domain Dedication and Certification" but in the right column says "Replaced by two separate tools: the CC0 Public Domain Dedication and the Public Domain Mark." Furthermore, at the top of the page it says "CC will no longer offer these licenses via its license chooser or other mechanism for any future work" and if you click on the link (https://creativecommons.org/choose/) there is a "Want public domain instead?" link to https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/ which prominently features the CC0 dedication.

So you can see that CC0 is still recommended it and it is in current use. Mike Linksvayer (former VP of Creative Commons) uses and recommends it: http://gondwanaland.com/mlog/2013/11/25/upgrade-to-0/

> CC requested the OSI to not approve it

I actually read through the OSI mailing list thread about the CC0 dedication once, and as far as I recall the OSI people (I think it was Bruce Perens) had reservations and eventually the CC side decided it wasn't worth pursuing, see https://opensource.org/faq#cc-zero for the OSI summary.


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