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The Democrats ran maybe the biggest misinformation campaign in my lifetime following the 2016 election. Massive turmoil and investigations later, it was all found to be false. What is this about “sides” again?


Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections

ICA 2017-01D 6 January 2017

Key Judgments

Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations.

We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments. ...

https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/ICA_2017_01.pdf


The investigations that lead to convictions were entirely fabricated?


No American on the Trump side was indicted of anything actually related to "Russiagate", but for unrelated procedural crimes discovered during the investigation. (You know the saying that everyone wittingly or unwittingly commits three crimes a day?) Several Russian agents were indicted for Russiagate-related things; Putin will turn his goons over to US custody any day now!

Then we have people like Carter Page, whose name was raked over the coals for years because a FBI lawyer intentionally altered evidence (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/09/us/politics/fbi-ig-report...) showing that far from being a Russian asset, Page had for years briefed the CIA every time he met with suspicious Russians. (Got to love how the Times describes said altering evidence as a "serious error".) You want an actual Russiagate-related indictment and guilty plea? Kevin Clinesmith, said FBI lawyer, is your man.


Mueller found Russia attacked the 2016 election and the Senate Intel Committee report found that Trump’s campaign manager was feeding internal campaign data to a Russian Intel Officer. Roger Stone was caught and convicted for lying to Congress about communications with Julian Assange, and the whole lot of them including Trump lied to the American people about hundreds of contacts with Russian nationals (some of whom turned out to be spies and Intel officers).


Technically it was found to be "by policy we do not press charges against sitting presidents" rather than false


You have not failed these people; capitalism has. The solution here is to organize working people to exert the political power that is rightfully theirs as those whose blood, sweat, and tears built our society. This isn’t a matter of cruelty; it’s a matter of exploitation.


Wow. I left the CG industry 3 years ago in a sad bout of defeat, involving both an ability to make a decent living and a realization that it would never my standards of creative engagement that were set by my lifetime love of photography and film. But, this project is very cool.


That’s the point. This might be acceptable if there was even one single thing about YouTube that was itself democratic in any way. Since there isn’t, this is an inherently anti-democratic maneuver.

The corporate oligarchy is shedding yet a bit mote hesitation to fully realize itself. This is not a good thing.


It is private property! Why do you expect it to be "democratic"?

Whilst the abolition of private property is a interesting idea, that is not, I expect, what you would advocate?


When you're the ONLY* alternative for videos online you have a moral obligation of being impartial.

* Vimeo, Daily Motion, Lbry or whatever else have even less shares than desktop Linuxes vs Windows. YouTube is the only game in town.


The popularity of other equally-good services should have no bearing on whether a service has a "moral obligation" to do something. There's nothing preventing all the conspiracy theorists from deciding en masse to move to Vimeo, or setting up their own video posting system on Gab or Parler.


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