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How far we have come that 60B could be considered a rounding error for a company

The US has GDP of 32 trillion. In an economy of that size, you would expect a few companies for which 60B is not crazy money, although rounding error is really stretching it.

"demand"

I work at some megacorp and have direct insight about any ai use - nope, not a single use case i witnessed used a2a in the final product. I still don't get a2a but you probably have to work at Google or something to see this as the solution to something.

Hi Claude fable, why u not protecting me from malware? Am i not american enough? Not rich enough? Yieks..

Uh, some would say it's easy to determine what input went into the training for kimi and qwen.. since they were caught stealing it from American labs. Some cultural cliches may never change.

> since they were caught stealing it from American labs. Some cultural cliches may never change.

Has a formal lawsuit been brought to bear? Given, Anthropic & OpenAI are being dragged through courts for copyright violation (or stealing, as you'd call it, if the companies involved were culturally Chinese) by newspapers, publishing houses etc; one'd think they'd pass on some of that medicine to Alibaba, which does have business entities registered in the US.


It's well-known that all commercial models are based on stolen content. That doesn't mean there is no filtering/censoring, just that the censoring likely depends on where it's happening…

> It's well-known that all commercial models are based on stolen content.

Does that mean that Chinese models are the "Robin Hood"s of the AI era?


>> Some cultural cliches may never change.

Let’s just gloss over the monstrous amount of copyrighted and pirated material the American labs trained on. China bad. American good. Some cultural cliches never change.


How about, both China and the US bad, Europe at least somewhat decent because we lack the financial incentives to behave like utter arseholes?

> since they were caught stealing it from American labs

...and "good guys" the American labs were caught stealing from authors all over the world[1].

[1]: www.npr.org/2025/09/05/g-s1-87367/anthropic-authors-settlement-pirated-chatbot-training-material


.... Anthropic began buying books in bulk, tearing off the bindings and scanning each page before feeding the digitized versions into its AI model, according to court documents.

Wow. This image of Anthropic employees ripping books apart to use them to train models is a powerful one, seems like an inflection point in the history of information.


> GPT‑NL is developed within the Netherlands and Europe. This gives us full control over the model, the data and the choices we make. We avoid dependency on non‑European providers and invest in a sustainable AI ecosystem aligned with our laws, values and societal goals.

I love it! So this is our answer to America and China denying foreigners access to their frontier models.. a massive 13,5M€ founding to develop souvereign european ai, trained exclusively on legally obtained documents and highest moral standards as defined in EU AI Act.


NL could simply say: no more ASML machines, and no more ASM wafers.

ASML’s EUV technology is partially based on US research and so Congress has a degree of control over it, so it’s not that simple: https://web.archive.org/web/20230116222847/https://www.nytim...

The US can only block exports. They cannot force exports. The NL-US relationship is quite toxic, for example the "Dutch America Friendship Treaty". Everything is very one-sided.

it is that simple

Any move like this would be simply by murdering the golden goose. ASMLs stuff is good no doubt but you don’t want to give the world the incentive to develop an alternative. If it was done once it can be done again and once it has been done again say good bye to all those returns on monopoly.

What makes you think they're not trying? The incentive has always been there. They simply fail to succeed.

There’s trying and then there’s trying.

If ASML’s output were absolutely necessary to the US or the rest of the world, and if no replacement could be made, the Netherlands would have infinite leverage and be the most powerful country in the world. That they aren’t tells you all you need to know about exactly how far they could take a strategy like what you’re describing. Yes, everyone needs ASML. But ASML also needs everyone else.

An elite toolmaker is nothing without the factories that use the tools.

The odds of the Dutch attempting to encumber the use of ASML machines by western bloc allies is similar to the odds of the sun going out suddenly. It ain’t gonna happen.


You don't wanna find out how fast american troops would land there..

Faster than in Iran?

10x? More like 1000x. EU doesn't have a chance except providing training for those talent only to be then aquired by US tech behemoths paying them what they are actually worth

The thing about trust is.. it takes time to build and seconds to destroy.

"Making Claude a chemist" is a punch in the face of all us here after we got a taste of Claude fable blocking almost any STEM-related topic. So i don't know what Story Anthropic wants to tell us with this blog. Probably more like "Hey, look at what awesome tricks Claude can do which of course you will never experience because you're not american, not friends with the CEO, not rich or simply because fuck you"

I think the story they want to tell is "we're not just taking your jobs, we can do positive stuff like Chemistry too, just like DeepMind!"

Except of course they mostly can't because Chemistry is about structure and molecular dynamics, not people's descriptions of experiments.

DeepMind if so far the only AI/AGI company - the rest are LLM companies.


It won't help... mind you this is an article from the economist. There is no such thing as a cancer "master switch", that would equal a disease master switch and that point we have solved biology.

What do you mean “it won’t help”?

It most likely will help if you get pancreatic cancer. It might help if you get one of the other types of cancers with this mutation.

And it will likely lead to new treatments for some of the worst kinds of cancer.


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