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The number one reason is that we've eaten red meat for millions of years, literally.

Given fake meat is new and I'm not seeing it in stores nearby yet, I'm going to assume a fair comparison will take another decade, after the studies and the meta analysis show up.

Until then the burden of proof is not on me ;-)



When you say something brand new and made from vegetables must cause cancer I think the burden of proof is absolutely on you, and so far you haven't given a single reason why that might be true.


Well if you want vegetables, you might as well skip this whole ceremony and straight away eat real vegetables. It's not that hard to make a vegetable sandwich.

The problem is you are selling processed vegetable mash with salts, chemical preservatives, conditioners and oil as meat.

It's not meat. It is, what it is. Processed vegetable trash. Sell it that way, and its perfectly fine. People can eat it if they want. Let's not signal this as some healthier alternative.

For more information read: Ship Of Theseus.


The person I replied to was saying that it likely to cause cancer. What are they putting in specifically that you think will cause cancer? It seems like people saying this are full of vague handwaving and won't give any specific reason or ingredient for why they think that.


As opposed to plants?


Thinking that eating fake meat is like eating plants is ... similar to thinking that crack cocaine has similar effects with coca leaves.

I expect more from HN :-)


And you’re thinking fast food meat is similar to what we ate for millions of years ... ?


Plant meat is not sold as an alternative to fast food meat, it's sold as an alternative to meat.

It will exactly go the way dessert corn flake breakfast has gone over the decades. A highly taste engineered food, loaded with chemicals and macro nutrient stuff which will give you a lot of diseases on the longer run.


Can you explain the difference between it and the vegetables it is made out of?


There are tons of plants that are not healthy to eat at all. Or can be processed in a way that makes them unhealthy, or even dangerous to eat. See: tobacco.


Which vegetables are they using that you think will cause cancer?


Eating red meat is Lindy.

Eating processed food with seed oils in factories is not.

The market is manipulated because of status games using bad science... it will unravel itself soon.




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