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~4000 employees generating revenue of 760m, which vendors get a big chunk of, doesn't seem super impressive. I mean it's a nice amount of income, but it doesn't seem very 'whoa..'.


23x the prior year's earnings, more than a third coming from overseas, and founded in 2008? Sounds pretty impressive to me.


With nearly $1 billion in funding, it'd be very disappointing to not be generating revenue at a very high level.


Check your facts. They turned $166M in funding (as of Dec 2010) into $760M in revenue for 2010.

How the hell is $1B in funding in Jan 2011 going to retroactively affect revenue in 2010??


All I am saying is that if investors are willing to invest $1 billion, the company should be pulling in pretty high revenues, regardless of the time they raised the money. Jeez.


Assuming the rumors were true, they could have been bought for $6bn in November by Google on ~$750mm 2010 revenue after three rounds totaling $171mm -- an outstanding return.

However, they chose to turn down the offer, and take on fourth round of nearly $1bn in Dec/Jan and (presumably) grow internationally. It's a bet by the board that they can grab land faster than anyone else.


Also, a large percentage of that was secondary, meaning it went to existing shareholders. So the actual primary funding was much less.

Edit: Hypothetical numbers for illustration purposes only:

    A invests $100M in company.
    B purchases half of A's shares for $200M.
    C purchases half of B's shares for $300M.
    D purchases remaining A shares for $400M.
So although they have "raised" $1B, the only amount that has been invested in the company is $100M.


How's your company doing?


back of napkin math:

50% goes to vendors, so that's down to 380mm

4,000 employees at average of $50K, comes out to 200mm

180mm remaining...they advertise pretty aggressively, so let's say they spend 100mm on ads(probably less).

Which still leaves them with 80mm in profit


I know it's back of the napkin accounting, but lets not forget all the other operational costs?

- Credit card processing on all transactions (3%?) - Office space for 4000 employees - Taxes - etc

Would take another huge chunk out of that 80mm




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