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This... still exists? It's called the Elks, the Kiwanis, the Odd Fellows, the Jaycees, the Rotary Club, the Knights of Pythias, the Freemasons, and some organizations based on blood or military service, like the American Legion or the Daughters of the American Revolution.

Even here in the Bay Area I live just a couple blocks down from a huge and well-appointed Elks lodge, and just a few miles away in downtown Mountain View, there is an Eagles lodge across the street from an Odd Fellows, itself a block away from a Freemason lodge.



I think they exist, but they don't appeal to younger people. All of the groups you mention that I'm familiar with I associate with people's grandfathers, or at youngest their slightly odd uncles. Also only with men, although maybe that's a bit of selection bias on the ones I know.

If something exists but people aren't using it, it isn't the right solution. It might be hard to say why it isn't, it could even just be a marketing problem, but nevertheless the problem isn't solved by its existence.


> I think they exist, but they don't appeal to younger people.

I live in the mid-west, where these organizations were very common. I'm ~50 years old, and I don't know ANYONE who's in one of them, and every one of them around the area that I drive by is in disrepair. I expect them to disappear with the boomer generation.

Another feature of my location are all the small "mainline" churches (Presbyterian, Methodist, et. al.), who hover around 30-50 people, and have no members younger than 60. There's a business opportunity coming to buy up a lot of prime real estate when these churches fold in another 10 years.

I think a huge problem with finding "community" now is the utter isolation caused by social media and access to the thinnest slice of the news you want to tolerate. It has created a culture where people are only tolerant to their SPECIFIC view of the world, and it's just really hard to find people who think EXACTLY like you.


I think they exist, but they don't appeal to younger people.

I actually tried to join a couple of those sorts of organizations, and I found them all very off-putting. Between the weird elitism, the arbitrary and time consuming hurdles for membership and the feeling that everybody there felt 20+ years older than me (even when they probably weren't) didn't make it seem like a good time.

I like the concept though, I just wish there was one that felt more up to date and actually felt like a sort of thing I'd want to join.


For those that live around Tampa, they can always join a Pirate Krewe https://interkrewe.com/ They started out of the Gasparilla Festival http://gasparillapiratefest.com/ but have become more like the Rotary club or the JC's. They tend to attract members from mid 20's on up.


They seem to appeal just fine in the Bay Area. In fact, I'd say that the main sources of social hookups and favor-trading around here are (a) churches and (b) fraternal orgs... possibly distantly followed by college alumni groups and actual college fraternities.

I think just talking to an Apple dad about his life and priorities would be extremely eye-opening for a lot of people on HN.


I... have never been aware of anyone in the Bay Area going to either a church or a fraternal org. But I guess it depends on what circles you run in.


I would say that about 40% of my engineer peers belong to a church, but my circle tends to be pretty Korean/Asian. Church attendance is pretty ubiquitous around here. Larry Wall goes to a local church.


Weird that our experiences are so different. Do you mean Korean/Asian immigrants, or Asian-American?


What is an Apple dad?


A male human who works at Apple and has reproduced at least once.


> I think they exist, but they don't appeal to younger people.

For the tech and maker types, a hackerspace/makerspace might be more appropriate.


While here in the Midwest, their golf clubs, parks and buildings are being sold off to the public for lack of membership.

Part of the problem is many are invitation-only clubs. That kept them mono-culture and full of the 'right people'. And the current members have at some time quit inviting? Don't know why.


Interesting, are you a member of either. I moved to the Bay Area a couple years back. Would love to join one of these organizations.


I was an active Rotarian for a while, but have scaled back my commitments this year.


Can you please tell me about your experience?


The underground pool at the SF Elks is lovely.


>Freemasons

So, basically people just wanted to hang out but now everyone thinks they want to take over the world.




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