> >Why from the outside? You're, quite literally, one command away from being on the inside: "M-x ielm"
> I have no idea what point you're trying to make here. By opening with what I'm sure is an oh-so-witty commit like this you signal that you aren't going to engage honestly in this debate.
I don't think that he was trying to make a 'witty' or snarky comment, just pointing out that anyone who wants to can be 'inside' Emacs development simply by firing up Emacs and running ielm (the interactive Emacs Lisp mode). It's an Emacs REPL: one has exactly as much power in it as anyone on the dev team. If you want to, you can even recompile the C bits …
> I categorically reject the idea that polished software is mutually exclusive of free software.
FWIW, I agree. I think that the default Emacs look could be a lot better.
>one has exactly as much power in it as anyone on the dev team
Technically, perhaps, but not politically. In that respect everyone who is not a core maintainer is an outsider. The latter is more relevant when trying to get the project to change. Sure, I can make my own emacs look nice but that doesn't change the default.
> I have no idea what point you're trying to make here. By opening with what I'm sure is an oh-so-witty commit like this you signal that you aren't going to engage honestly in this debate.
I don't think that he was trying to make a 'witty' or snarky comment, just pointing out that anyone who wants to can be 'inside' Emacs development simply by firing up Emacs and running ielm (the interactive Emacs Lisp mode). It's an Emacs REPL: one has exactly as much power in it as anyone on the dev team. If you want to, you can even recompile the C bits …
> I categorically reject the idea that polished software is mutually exclusive of free software.
FWIW, I agree. I think that the default Emacs look could be a lot better.