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Because there isn't a proportional performance gain, and the heat generated will degrade the computer, at what cost? A few irrelevant percentage points?


If you're concerned about proportional performance gains, this product isn't for you. So why are you complaining about something you're not gonna buy anyway?

Most tech products that are the tip of the spear are bad value for money and less energy efficient than the ones down the range (Nvidia 3090 vs 3080 for example) as they pass the point of diminishing returns of what the design can do and what's cheap and easy to manufacture.

But they exist because there is a marke of enthusiasts for whom efficiency or price does not matter, they just want the best performance money can buy because maybe their business use case benefits from the 10% shorter render/compile times at the cost of 50% extra power consumption. Who are you to judge?


To feel better about my non Intel purchase by laughing at the performance.

If that is true they should be comparing it to the Epyc 7763 or other CPUs that aren't meant to be reasonably priced. No reason a true enthusiast would pick this CPU over Epyc.


> they should be comparing it to the Epyc 7763

That's a server chip/line, no? And therefore will have significantly worse per-core performance, one of the most important things for non-embarrassingly-parallel compute tasks?

Edit: and after a cursory search, is it not also true that Epyc line is 4-8x higher priced than the 12900k MSRP?


>To feel better about my non Intel purchase by laughing at the performance.

That just sounds childish.


It’s a self deprecating joke, dude. People make these to de-escalate situations safely. I sometimes really wonder at the social skills of people on this website.


>It’s a self deprecating joke, dude.

Jokes are usually meant to be funny.

>I sometimes really wonder at the social skills of people on this website.

One's social skills are not defined by comprehension of poor attempts at snarky humor on the internet.


heat barely degrades consumer pc components, and certainly not on timescales dominated by Moores law.


You really believe that? Feel free run your computer after you take off the heatsinks of your computer, removing all the fans, and removing all the heatsink paste if you truly believe heat doesn't degrade pc components. Feel free to post the results.


you should feel bad for posting such an obviously obtuse comment in bad faith


I don’t, because you are wrong about heat. Heat matters to everyone. If heat didn’t matter on regular timescales graphics cards would never break and crypto miners wouldn’t care about their hardware getting hot.


how do you explain benchmarks showing no difference between used and new gpu performance? if a card posts its age is not a concern

https://youtu.be/44JqNJq-PC0

https://youtu.be/hKqVvXTanzI


The 480 was probably barely used and the mining GPU are used at low power and controlled temperatures. It proves my point.

Old doesn’t mean heat abused. Gaming laptops or ones with discrete GPUs often have issues and it’s always because of the GPU. If it posts it doesn’t mean that the GPU won’t die soon or is problem free, gaming laptops have the most heat abuse and are constantly dying and having issues. Performance degradation because it’s old is a different claim from saying heat damage doesn’t exist.




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