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Refusing to publish in a top journal is academic suicide. Why would any individual researcher do that?


If all the tenured professors published directly to arxiv only for a year, what would happen to them?


In most fields, tenured professors coauthor their papers with their PhD students and/or early career postdocs. So what would happen is that they would be throwing those people, whose career depends on publishing in a hyper-competitive environment, under the bus. Apart from losing the funding with which one can renew contracts to students and postdocs, etc. As a tenured professor myself, I have thought about this often (1), but there's almost always someone more vulnerable that I would be harming with that decision.

Honestly, this kind of discussion comes up very often, but it is really difficult, if not impossible, to get out of this situation via bottom-up action. Top-down measures for governments are pretty much needed for any meaningful change.

(1) Actually, to be more precise, all my papers are already open-access, but many of them are in for-profit publishers that charge the author thousands of dollars to publish open-access, which in my view is also a parasitic model and a scourge for science like paying for subscription. The specific thing I've thought about is not publishing in any for-profit publisher at all, but anyway the shackles that keep us tied to publishers are the same in both cases (modulo whether you have funding to pay publishing charges or not).


I don't think anyone who's done research would argue that, but a lot of research isn't mirrored on arxiv/etc when it could be. So I see a lot of these as education campaigns for researchers themselves.


Many/Some(??) journals now allow to publish a pre-print to arxiv and alike and do not count that as previous publication... So you don't get the paper in the "journal"-format style, but the content is the same.

So you can still continue to publish in journal, while the research is also still freely available. Usually you are also allowed to share the published article via email, just not put it publicly available on your website...


I think the arxiv / pre-print workaround could have so much more potential if more researchers were motivated/educated on it. I'd love to see an effort to simply email the top 10k authors to request preprint copies to be hosted. If all they have to do is send a pdf, I think most would be happy to do it.


Because it’s the right thing to do? Lmao, right? Who would be stupid enough to even consider doing anything but playing the clout games.


Doing it means you will have to leave academia is the point. Your performance is measured in published papers - how much you published and where.

Not publishing means you are not producing which means not being hired after.


I don’t think it’s that black and white. What you publish is more important than where at least in some fields.


If you don't publish it in the right venue nobody will read it, which means nobody will cite it, which means you did the work for nothing. At least in all fields where I know people.


There’re also articles in prestigious journals that aren’t getting any citations. There’re other ways to engage people with your research.


Sounds utterly insane.


More then that. Academia is hyper competitive. It is kind of pyramid with huge amount of smart hard working people falling out on every level.

It is difficult to get position, so if you want to stay in, you need to keep your record perfect.




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