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When I was working at Apple the number of foreign-born engineers I interacted with was greater than the number of American-born engineers. If you added together foreign-born with 1st generation Americans (i.e. one or both parents were foreign-born), that number was far greater than the number of "purebred" Americans.

Not sure about Google and Microsoft, but it does say something that 50% of Google's founders were foreign born.

Anecdotally, in graduate school I have noticed a troubling trend. 10 years ago, foreign students would come to the U.S. to get advanced degrees and then stay in the U.S. to get good paying jobs. Today, many of those students are returning to their home countries for work...

In other words, the U.S. is riding a wave that was started by the educated class in the 1940s and 1950s and was increasingly supported by the immigrant class in the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s. When the immigrants stop coming, if the educated class is found to be missing...then, yes, the U.S. is screwed.



10 years ago, foreign students would come to the U.S. to get advanced degrees and then stay in the U.S. to get good paying jobs.

Here in India, Going to America is very fashionable and earns a lot of respect in society. A lot of friends went to America for further studies for just 'America returned' brand factor.

Indians have a lot of misconceptions about America. Some of the most ridiculous economic assumptions.

a. Everybody in America is ultra rich. b. There are no poor people in America, Everybody in America is a millionaire. c. Everybody owns a car in America. d. In America all houses have gardens, beautiful parks around them. e. If you are in America you are in heaven.

Thereby the mad rush to get settled in America, somehow. Some people take ridiculous loans to study there. Ultimately leaving no other option but to stay back in America work there even for throw away prices just to pay of the massive debt back home.

People back here in India, find it very difficult to believe that there are a lot people in America who have to work very hard just to make ends meet.


When I came to Google, of my team of 25 people only 6 were from the US. The remainder were about evenly divided between Europe, India, and China.


I used to work for Amazon - and while I was there, my team was 10:6 immigrant vs. native-born. Less if you consider only third-generation and beyond as "native-born".

And let me put it this way, while we were hiring, the number of qualified candidates we saw was mostly foreign. In fact, the last 3 hires we made before I left was all foreign - not out of preference, but because that's where the supply sits.

I'm personally Chinese-Canadian, and something my folks said to me when I was younger has really stuck with me through the years: people who have suffered work harder. Much, much harder - not 20% harder, more like 1000% harder. Hard work pays off.


The US sure doesn't make it easy for those graduates to stay!


I know what you mean. A friend of mine is trying desperately to stay, but unless she can get a job that will sponsor her, she'll get tossed out after her studies are finished.


Sergey Brin has been in the United States since he was six.

> Not sure about Google and Microsoft, but it does say something that 50% of Google's founders were foreign born.

I'm not sure it says anything beyond the point that brilliant people will be successful regardless of where they were born.




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