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> So we are actually paying more

We are actually paying less, because all these sponsors and ads pay the manufacturer, which in turn lowers the purchase price. So if you don't use the smart features, it is actually a good deal, and if you do, well it is still a good deal. The one who pay for your discount are those who pay for the advertised services (ex: Netflix) without buying the TV. Probably the best thing to do is to buy a smart TV you can use dumbly (offline).

Big monitors tend to be much more expensive than similarly specced TVs. You may still want it for things like gaming-related features (g-sync, etc...).



If triple A gaming has taught me anything, no, the prices are not lowered in compensation for the additional revenue stream. There’s no upside for them to do so.

Even if they sell a third fewer models, the ad revenue way more than makes up for it, and it’s recurring revenue to boot.


> If triple A gaming has taught me anything, no, the prices are not lowered in compensation for the additional revenue stream.

Inflation-adjusted, on average, AAA games have slowly decreased in retail price over the years. At the same time, they have become much more expensive to produce. Technology have improved, HD graphics, storage and computing power is now cheap, but creative work is as expensive as ever, if not more. And someone has to make all these assets and feature-film level animation that newer hardware supports and that players now expect from AAA games.

That increase in production costs compared to a relative decrease in retail prices explain a lot of things regarding the AAA game industry: in-game purchases, a general lack of originality (originality is a gamble, and with $100M+ games, investors want guaranteed returns), few consoles exclusives (producers want the largest market possible), lower pay than in other industries,...


This argument gets trotted out every time, and it's not only old, it's clearly wrong.

Why is it wrong? Because AAA games are absurdly profitable, even before microtransactions are brought into play. AAA publishers and studios are making billions, with a 'B', of dollars of profit. That's not the sign of a struggling market that's weighed down by inflation and rising costs of production. That's a sign of an exceptionally healthy industry.

Remember, cost only sets the floor of a product's price. And with a near zero duplication cost, those up-front investments are quickly paid back with no practical upper limit to the sales potential.

For example, CDPR's Cyberpunk 2077 cost around $316M (including marketing). It presold, as reported on wikipedia, 8m copies. That means they made their investment back before the game had even released, plus a minimum of $20 profit per each of those 8m pre-orders (remember, $60 is the lowest price paid in a pre-order). And every post-launch sale is pretty much pure profit, thanks to that nearly-free cost of making copies.

Now then, CP2077 had issues which probably ate into the company's profits post-launch... but that initial investment, the one you've pointed out? Paid for the day the game released.


> buy a smart TV you can use dumbly (offline).

Are you sure that’s always true?

What about smart TVs that seek out open wifi networks or try to access the internet via HDMI?

The problem with smart TVs is that you loose control of what they’re actually doing.

i.e. LG smart TVs searching your network for media and sending a log back to… somewhere.

Or Samsung smart TVs sending hashed images of what you’re watching back to… somewhere.

This happens regardless of if you’re using the smart features or not.


I am not aware of a TV that requires internet access to show a picture, but I haven't looked in a long time. I don't think a TV will try to hack nearby networks, but it is possible that it strongly suggests you to connect to the internet, for example by showing nag screens, locking out essential features, or fixing breaking bugs that should never have been allowed to ship.

What I meant that you can buy a smart TV and take advantage of the lower prices but you should make sure that you can actually use the TV without a network connection (and yes, that it doesn't try to hack your wifi).




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