I agree with the UI stuff and soft deletes. It was a lesson I learned about 7 years ago when I had users make some tragic mistakes in a system I made. “Are you sure?” doesn’t do anything more than a hand wave CYA. Showing the consequences does.
But then this starts sounding like a guy who went to the same bank for 30 years, knows the tellers, and doesn’t understand why they won’t give him a small business loan.
If you started a company, rely on GitHub for core infrastructure, why would you not pay for it? And if you did this, why would you expect them to do support outside of self-service? Open Source doesn’t mean charity-worthy anymore. Most “successful” projects are either spun out of or spearheaded by a business these days. And it’s not like GitHub is rolling in profit. Their enterprise offering is just starting to get traction under MS.
I think the complaints would be more valid if they were outside of the norms in this space. GitHub + MS is still 1000x less shady than Sourceforge. I don’t think you’d see different behavior from GitLab et al.
To the real politik-like view: this experience won’t make you (or many others) move elsewhere or pay for the service. So it’s ultimately a 0 consequence situation outside of a blog post and some community discussion.
I’m general, I don’t love pieces of software or companies. I’ll wear free t-shirts to mow the lawn, not with pride. I don’t love GitHub, but I dislike it less than the alternatives, partly because it’s just the easiest. I think most are in that camp. Oktocat lost his street cred long ago.
But then this starts sounding like a guy who went to the same bank for 30 years, knows the tellers, and doesn’t understand why they won’t give him a small business loan.
If you started a company, rely on GitHub for core infrastructure, why would you not pay for it? And if you did this, why would you expect them to do support outside of self-service? Open Source doesn’t mean charity-worthy anymore. Most “successful” projects are either spun out of or spearheaded by a business these days. And it’s not like GitHub is rolling in profit. Their enterprise offering is just starting to get traction under MS.
I think the complaints would be more valid if they were outside of the norms in this space. GitHub + MS is still 1000x less shady than Sourceforge. I don’t think you’d see different behavior from GitLab et al.
To the real politik-like view: this experience won’t make you (or many others) move elsewhere or pay for the service. So it’s ultimately a 0 consequence situation outside of a blog post and some community discussion.
I’m general, I don’t love pieces of software or companies. I’ll wear free t-shirts to mow the lawn, not with pride. I don’t love GitHub, but I dislike it less than the alternatives, partly because it’s just the easiest. I think most are in that camp. Oktocat lost his street cred long ago.