If I can finetune the model on my face and the model will be able to generate my nudes (even if there is no nude of mine in the dataset), then it can works easily with children too.
> Do you understand that adult bodies and child bodies look different?
SD-based models can generate child bodies just fine, based on lots of training with non-porn images.
> Please show me a model trained on adult humans being fine tuned to generate a child human (fully clothed).
That's going to be hard in the SD space since there are, AFAIK, no models trained exclusively on adult humans (not even the base models), so you'd have to scratch-train a new base model to do this. (A model fine-tuned on adult images is still going to have the influence of base-model training, and unless massively overfit—usually very much an anti-goal, the exception being age-filter models whose entire focus is controlling apparent age [0]—will not have lost much of the generalization capability of the base model.)
The generalization abilities of models are good enough in other contexts that its plausible that realistic nude children could be generated by a model with no nude children in its training data that was otherwise trained on both clothed children and nude adults. I have no plans on testing this, however.
> SD-based models can generate child bodies just fine, based on lots of training with non-porn images.
I have not stated anything contrary.
> The generalization abilities of models are good enough in other contexts that its plausible that realistic nude children could be generated by a model with no nude children in its training data that was otherwise trained on both clothed children and nude adults. I have no plans on testing this, however.
Stable Diffusion has failed me for much simpler interpolations than the one you're describing. I don't believe this would work based on previous interpolations I have seen in Stable Diffusion. You can convince me by showing an example, but not by stating that it is possible without one.
> > The generalization abilities of models are good enough in other contexts that its plausible that realistic nude children could be generated by a model with no nude children in its training data that was otherwise trained on both clothed children and nude adults. I have no plans on testing this, however.
> Stable Diffusion has failed me for much simpler interpolations than the one you're describing
Its succeeded for me in much more complex ones. SD (even with the same exact set of checkpoint, LoRa, etc., and other workflow elements) isn't consistent across apparent-to-humans complexity levels in its generalization ability, and there are a very large combination of potential combinations.
> You can convince me by showing an example
Yeah, I'm not going to try to make simulated child porn for you, and while I would have sided with you in the debate over whether your earlier proof request amounted to a request for that, this one very clearly does.
Jesus, what is wrong with you? I clearly asked for an example of complex interpolations. How am I "very clearly" asking for CP when we're talking about complex interpolations, not CP?
Please, explain how I am "very clearly" asking for it. Please. Literally both sentences preceding the one you quoted (as in, the entire paragraph containing this sentence) are talking about interpolation. How do you jump from interpolation to CP??
> And does my face compare to the ones in the dataset.
Yes, exactly! You're fine-tuning something with more data. How do you fine-tune adult porn models to create CP without CP data? If you do what you're saying you'll have adult bodies with child faces.
> That's not something I can easily train for you ahaha
Can you show me any example where such a thing has worked? I don't believe such an example exists.
>Can you show me any example where such a thing has worked? I don't believe such an example exists.
You can use Stable Diffusion.
>If you do what you're saying you'll have adult bodies with child faces.
The body will be similar to petite people or similar to lolicon content traslated into "real life", it's not a far guess by the model.
The model do the same thing as with finetuning with my face, it understand that my images are the images of an adult male face and the knowledge will be added to the higher understanding of adult male and this include nudity, when you finetune on children it understand it's a human and it will added to the higher understanding of humans (And that includes nudity in various forms).
Maybe the model wouldn't be perfect with children, but it can't be with my nudes either, maybe I don't have nipples and the model doesn't know it; but the guesses that the model does are usually good enough to be considered realistic or plausible.
Yes, and as I've already told you, it doesn't work in Stable Diffusion, or at least I haven't seen any examples. Don't repeat this point again, show me an example.
> The body will be similar to petite people or similar to lolicon content traslated into "real life", it's not a far guess by the model.
Really? Show me an example. Don't just claim it, show me some place where this worked. You've mentioned fine-tuning a model with your face. Fine-tune a child model with your face and show me that it outputs something roughly adult-like. Or do the opposite and fine-tune an adult model with a child face and show me the model generates a small person. Show me that it's true, don't just claim it to be.
