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Good point. Can someone recommend some good optimistic science fiction?


A Half Built Garden was lovely, I thought.

Ada Palmer had a good write-up on Hopepunk. Many of the example books come towards the latter half of the write-up. https://beforewegoblog.com/purity-and-futures-of-hard-work-b...


i tried "half built garden" and just could not continue reading it. why is everyone so obsessed with their genders and pronouns?


Thanks, hopepunk is a fun new concept to learn about.


Project Hail Mary, The Martian, Contact. Somewhat in line with a better future mentioned in the essay, The Ministry for the Future and the Mars trilogy by Kim Stanley Robinson posit some solutions to some big technological challenges with a lot of time with each side in the political debate, though whether one finds it optimistic lies with the reader.


I was as disappointed as everbody else by Artemis, but Project Hail Mary was a great return to form and a great Space MacGyver Procedura. Definitely left me fired up and feeling positive as well. I really appreciate just the joy in knowledge that Weir's books revel in.


A film adaptation of Project Hail Mary wrapped filming last year and is set to be released in 2026.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Hail_Mary_(film)


I might just be vulnerable to maudlin storylines but Project Hail Mary made me tear up a couple of times. The audiobook adaptation is tremendous with sound effects, too.


The Monk & Robot books[1] are my personal favorites in the whole genre.

[1]: https://us.macmillan.com/series/monkrobot


agreed, especially the first book. the other becky chambers books in the "long way to a small angry planet" series are also quite good.


The novella "To Be Taught, If Fortunate," the only Becky Chambers book not part of either of those series, is also good.


The Ministry for the Future, by Kim Stanley Robinson. Realistic and optimistic climate fiction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ministry_for_the_Future


But it begins with a nightmarish heatwave that kills hundreds of thousands in India, which may be a little hard for some people to handle (judging by the reactions of people I've recommended it to...)


Yeah I stopped after that and still find myself thinking about it from time to time...if the book gets happier from there, I'll pick it up again.


When you realize all that must work (not in the physical world, but in the human one) perfectly for that problem to be solved it becomes very pessimistic.

The human part of that book is fantasy, and not a great one. At some point the suspension of disbelief crash into pieces.


Literally anything written by Liu Cuxin. Not overtly positive all the time but always infused with a deep historical optimism about humanity and the power of science + engineering.

Also I second Ministry for the Future.

Reading the newer translation of We right now also and the first 1/2 or so is weirdly positive. Not what I remembered at all.


You and I must have read different books or imagine vastly different things under the term "optimism".


Star Trek is often considered the archetype of optimistic science fiction.


Sadly its present-day incarnations are often anything but, so it's not an easy rec anymore.


The TNG Picard character was a man of _principles_ that you just don't see anymore on TV.


Yeah TNG is my go-to for optimistic sci-fi. Voyager a close second; Deep Space 9 is a bit more muddled.

Modern Trek is a let-down, although Lower Decks has been awesome with lots of member berries sprinkled throughout for the TNG-era enjoyers.

I should add that Star Trek: Prodigy (albeit a kids show) has been very optimistic and enjoyable too, feels very much like TNG-era. Janeway and Chakotay are in as well.

P.S.

On a tangent The Orville (a Star Trek TNG clone by Seth MacFarlane) is pretty good; some Star Trek actors even show up in it.

Season 4 is apparently in production.


Lower Decks and Prodigy are very much created by people who have fond memories of TNG and Voyager. Even though Prodigy is a kids show, I have a soft spot for it since I was watching Voyager as a 10-13 year old. It definitely works at tapping into the fuzzy nostalgia vibes if you're the right age.


The Orville is the best Star Trek show since the 90s, and it's not even close. While it doesn't have the IP, it's clear that Seth MacFarlane gets Trek where the people in charge of the actual IP do not at all. I would give a great deal to put him in charge of the Star Trek franchise instead of Alex Kurtzman and his staff.


Star Trek kinda sucks.

It's an attempt at reforming quasi fascistic points of view. Strong hierarchies, heavy specialization of individuals, etc.

It is also kinda nice, in the sense that it explores this idea that you should put yourself in the shoes of the places they explore.

It also sucks, because their fans like to put themselves in the shoes of the quasi fascistic spaceship troops.

So, in the end, it is a dystopian nightmare. Told from the perspective of the ones who brought the dystopia to fruition. Which makes it optimistic, I guess! Except for all the planets not on their control having to put up with them.


I'd disagree. Modern day Trek is optimistic, just not in the naive way the original series and TNG were, where it was simply taken for granted that humans had evolved beyond their base vices and utopia was simply a natural expression of their enlightened nature. That isn't something one can aspire to. In modern Trek, humans are humans and human nature is realistic, and those utopian ideals have to be struggled for.


I'm not sure that being sentimental about and talking up genocidal mass-murderers like the Georgiou character etc. easily fits your characterization of the franchise.


The Section 31 series flopped pretty hard though. Georgiou isn't portrayed as sympathetically outside of a series that's supposed to be a vehicle for Michelle Yeoh.


A Miracle of Science (webcomic, 2002-2007)

https://www.project-apollo.net/mos/


It takes it a long while to get there, but L.E. Modesitt, Jr.'s "Forever Hero Trilogy" has always felt optimistic to me.


The "Delta V" books by Daniel Suarez.

I've been recommending "The Deluge" by Stephen Markeley, which is simultaneously very dark and quite optimistic.

"Walkaway" by Cory Doctorow


I liked the _The Deluge_ (great characterization), Doctorow is generally good and _Walkaway_ was great, his _The Lost Cause_[1] is also a fairly hopeful novel.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Cause_(novel)




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