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> The EU decided to play the US and China against each other to improve its own standing, which is why the US is now moving away from the EU.

This is sanewashig this whole thing. The fact is, the US is moving away from the EU because Trump doesn't like democracies. It's that simple. You have a large percentage of your population in what is essentially a cult and you have givem them the reigns.



> This is sanewashig this whole thing.

This was being called back during the Biden admin and before Trump even ran again.

Back during the Obama admin, even!

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/no-piv...

https://www.gisreportsonline.com/r/us-pivot-asia/

https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/europe-biggest-...

If the US can't build strong coalitions with Europe, it wants to spend its energy elsewhere.

Even pop-geopolitik wonk Peter Zeihan was pointing this out during Covid. I can't find his videos, but this has been top of mind for a lot of people for a very long time. These are anti-Trump people, too.

Multipolarity means instability, violence, fights over resources, fights over trade. Post-WWII was unusually (relatively) stable.

The US can turtle up, just like it did before WWII. It doesn't share a land border with any other major powers, unlike European and Asian countries. It commands the two oceans on its sides (and soon Arctic), and doesn't need anyone else - this was the US' defense posture since its founding.


You’re right. It was in the book Disunited Nations by Zeihan.


Honestly, the idea of Trump making geopolitically informed decisions is so out of the realm of my perception of reality I don't even know how to engage with you. Trump is a narcissistic idiot that you voted into power. Your geopolitical direction is dictated by his narcissistic whims. "National security reasons Greenland" or "EU collaboration with China" or whatever is exactly what I initially said - sane washing a lunatic.

But, anyway, good luck. You'll need it.


I have a great interest in geopolitics. I didn't vote for Trump, and I already told you this is coming from within the DoD.

These are military decisions. These are 50-year plans.

Here I was 10 months ago and two years ago saying the same thing:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43505524

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36896699


I am not saying you're stupid or misinformed, I'm saying you're missing the point. Understanding what Trump wants doesn't require you to understand geopolitics, it requires you know clinical psychiatry.


Trump doesn't want this. He didn't come up with the idea.

Trump was told and encouraged to want this by the little birdies at the DoD.


What do you expect (e.g.) Norway to do except disentangle, when their PM sends this text and gets back this response? And note that Finland's president (Alex there) has been one of the big proponents of continuing to engage with Trump. So, honest question, what should Finland, Norway, etc, do?

https://archive.ph/rjEtm


Trump absolutely drives this. You're deluded if you think this whole thing comes from the DOD. He is in effect a king at this point and he rules by posting in social media.




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