I think what would really help these kinds of discussions is to first agree on whether we're discussion a 'should' or an 'is'.
In the latter case, there are many conclusions one can draw that are considered racist, misogynist, or discriminatory in any other way. And this knowledge can be valuable for study, or other ways.
In the former case, however, all of that doesn't necessarily matter, partly because we assume the reasons for things being as they are, are a result of unfair processes, and partly because we prefer to give the individual the benefit of the doubt over trusting on the statistics that would put this individual in a group that he might not really be part of.
I often feel that both types of discussions are significantly harmed by conflating the two.
In the latter case, there are many conclusions one can draw that are considered racist, misogynist, or discriminatory in any other way. And this knowledge can be valuable for study, or other ways.
In the former case, however, all of that doesn't necessarily matter, partly because we assume the reasons for things being as they are, are a result of unfair processes, and partly because we prefer to give the individual the benefit of the doubt over trusting on the statistics that would put this individual in a group that he might not really be part of.
I often feel that both types of discussions are significantly harmed by conflating the two.